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The First-Five-Trips Rule: Card Fraud Protection Explained

Why a new client's first 5 trips on LimoFarmOut are paid within 84 hours instead of 48: how the card fraud protection works for chauffeurs and new posters.

By LimoFarmOut Team · · 6 min read

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Most payouts on LimoFarmOut are released within 48 hours of drop-off. Now and then a driver gets a message on a job that says something different: paid within 84 hours. That is not a mistake, and it is not a penalty on the driver. It is the first-five-trips rule, and it exists to protect drivers from one of the oldest tricks in the transport business.

This post explains, in plain terms, what the rule is, why it exists and what it means for you, whether you drive or post.

The rule in one sentence

When a poster is new to LimoFarmOut, the first 5 trips they post are paid to the driver within 84 hours of drop-off, instead of within 48 hours, to keep everyone safe from card fraud.

From that poster's sixth paid trip onwards, the usual 48-hour timing applies.

Nothing else about the job changes. It is still paid in full by card before it reaches the board, the money is still held by the platform, and the driver still keeps the full payout. Only the release clock is longer, and only for a short while.

The problem it solves: stolen cards

Every job on LimoFarmOut is paid by card before it reaches the board. That protects drivers from operators who don't pay. But a card payment has its own weak spot.

Imagine someone uses a stolen card to post a series of expensive trips, perhaps rides for friends or for themselves. The payment goes through. A driver completes the trip in good faith. A few days later, the real cardholder sees the charge, tells their bank, and the bank reverses it. That reversal is a chargeback.

If the driver's payout had already been sent, the money would be gone from the platform, and recovering it from a fraudster is close to impossible. Chargebacks for stolen cards often arrive days after the payment, not minutes. The extra hold on a brand-new poster's first trips gives that warning time to arrive before the money leaves.

Why it applies to new posters only

The risk is concentrated at the start. A poster who has had several jobs paid and completed without trouble has shown their card payments are genuine. A poster with no history hasn't yet.

So the rule follows the poster, not the driver:

The rule applies even if a new poster confirms the trip straight away. Normally, a poster's confirmation releases the payout early. For a new poster's first trips, the payout waits for the full protection period.

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Soft evening light across the empty rear seats of a luxury car

What it means for drivers

For chauffeurs, the rule has three practical effects.

You're told up front. When you take a job from a new client, a note in the trip chat and an email tell you the payout is released within 84 hours of drop-off, and when the trip ends you're told the exact release time. The money is already paid and held; you don't need to do anything. Most drivers find a slightly longer wait from a new client is a fair price for being protected.

It doesn't change how much you're paid. The payout is the same. You keep the full amount, and extras approved by the poster are added as normal.

Instant cash-out still works once the payout is released. After release, you can take the standard free transfer, which usually reaches your bank in 1 to 2 business days, or use instant cash-out for a flat $2. See Stripe payouts for chauffeurs for how the bank side works.

The bigger point: without protection like this, a single stolen-card job could cost a driver a full trip's pay. A few extra hours of waiting, on a handful of jobs from new posters, is far cheaper.

What it means for new posters

If you've just joined and farmed out your first job, nothing about your side changes. You pay at posting as usual, the job goes on the board, and verified drivers can take it.

It's worth knowing about the rule for two reasons:

  1. Your driver is told. The chauffeur who takes your job is told about the 84-hour timing, so there are no surprises on their side. A fair payout and clear job details help your early jobs fill quickly.
  2. It ends on its own. After your first five paid trips, your jobs show the normal timing. There is nothing to apply for.

Like every job, the money stays held through the 24-hour window after the trip in which you can report a problem.

Part of a wider set of protections

The first-five-trips rule is one layer among several that keep money safe on the network:

For how those pieces fit together, read how held funds end credit risk between operators.

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Further reading

Stripe explains how card disputes and chargebacks work and how businesses prevent fraud and disputes. On this blog: prepaid farm-out explained and why chauffeurs stop taking jobs by text and WhatsApp. The how it works page walks through a driver's payout step by step.

Frequently asked questions

Why is my payout due within 84 hours instead of 48?

The job was posted by a new poster. A new client's first 5 trips are paid within 84 hours of drop-off, to protect everyone from card fraud.

Does the 84-hour rule reduce my payout?

No. The amount is the same and you keep the full payout. Only the release timing is longer.

When does the 48-hour timing apply again?

From the poster's sixth paid trip. The rule covers only a new poster's first five trips.

Can a new poster release the payout early by confirming the trip?

No. For a new poster's first trips, the payout waits for the full protection period even if the trip is confirmed early.

How will I know a payout is on the 84-hour timing?

You're told in the trip chat and by email when you take a job from a new client, and again with the exact release time when the trip ends.

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